energy there. you can see the interplay. i want to see you perhaps get bill clinton and michelle obama here together, and you interview them. >> that would be awesome. >> and see how that works out. that's what i want to see. >> on it, done. write that down. on it. charles, what have you got? >> i can't wait until we can line up the gang of eight's immigration plan against the president's plan. this is an issue we have to deal with. it's all in the details. it's not really the big ticket items, it is the down ticket items. >> the big ticket items actually haven't changed from generations ago. >> everybody has to register, but they can't work until they've paid all the fines. >> details, details. >> all that stuff is where it really works out. >> the president has said, as a father, he wouldn't let his children, if he had boys, play football. >> i have two boys, and i have the same debate. i grew up in football culture, friday night lights, small town texas, and i don't know if i'd let my boys play football. >> i've had that